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McCreepy the Frog by shebid

Yes ladies and gents, this is what this group is about. Not just taking quality, but helping to FEATURE upcoming, always learning and improving artist as well.

I was so proud when I found this. I really hope many of you see now that a DD is not an award, it's a feature. It's something someone was inspired or felt something and wanted to share with many. :clap:


NOW!!! Back to business!

We've got most of the new moderators in, and we're cleaning up some last minuet details. We'll be opening the gallery again on tuesday!!!



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KR

Edit: Add to your faves so the whole of DA can maybe see this on the top 5 at the bottom. :D
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f1utterby3 Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I really like the message behind this journal -- I've been disgusted by the comment that people leave on DDs talking about how much they don't deserve it and treating it like it should be an award.

The only problem I have with this though is that it's coming from this group. I feel like so many submission are rejected on the basis that they're not good enough that it really goes against the idea of what this journal is promoting. The few pieces of art that tickle through really embody perfect and the elitist, and not little froggies like this.
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Loza-Muse Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
dA Can't see the group journals.
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Axl-fox Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Student Digital Artist
"Yes ladies and gents, this is what this group is about. Not just taking quality, but helping to FEATURE upcoming"

OH REALLY? you brag about quality not being the main feature of a DD, yet this group seems to be biased in quality only, yet none of the works I put so much effort into (and as a side-note, are MUCH better than that frog) are ever accepted.
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KeraRaven Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2012   General Artist
Please read the DD's comment description.

Again everyone see's art very differently and that's even a big possible in this group. Different is not just quality, but if it was a game, or event, what it means to the person, the time they took on it, and so forth.

I'm sorry you've never gotten one, but this piece was done eyes closed. It's different for many people on how they did the things they submit to DA. No one's is really more better then the others. It's a matter of perspective and likes and dislikes. :)
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Axl-fox Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
YEEAAAH sorry but Im not buying that, there's a million of other people who draw stuff with eyes closed.

Again, this doesnt change the fact that this group is completely biased.
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Paradoxigent Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Student General Artist
I think I have figured it out why I am not improving. My artwork is always generic.

I haven't bothered submitting much anymore, mostly because I often became unrecognizable or critiqued extensively on how I do my artwork by people online and in real life. Through this, I possibly obtained the worst artist block I have ever had in my life. It literally stopped. I wasn't devoted anymore, seeing it as something I felt people wouldn't accept. Maybe I have to overlook this. Maybe I need to just go, not halt and ask directions, but just go, running that red light and doing my own work the way I want to. If I try to please people by adjusting to what they want to see, where's the progression?

...Whoever made this article, you made me inspired now! Thank you! :salute:
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KeraRaven Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012   General Artist
I'm glad your inspired. :) I hope to see great works come from you.
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TimeDevoursALL Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Student General Artist
What a great way to start some good old dArama.

I first say that one the now deceased ED as well. I had a good laugh but that's all. It didn't upset me in anyway. Yes, a DD is not an award but a feature. An award implies that there is something to be won. You don't win anything if you get a DD though some people like to think so :giggle: At the bare bones a DD is what a gallery mod (I'm sorry, CV) wanted to feature for one reason or another.

Personally, I'm more for quality works but I'm not about to bitch if I don't like a DD, unless it's blatant art theft which has sadly happened many times :stare:
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TimeDevoursALL Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Student General Artist
* I first saw that one on the now deceased ED as well. :crying:
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Barrocco Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It is a cute drawing, but is it not a fact it was by default it became a DD? What is the point of having it be a DD? I got nothing against the frog (I love frogs), but it seems rather a stubborn decision to keep it a DD if it was by default.
I get rather confused, if you don't mind explaining.

But I can get if it have been to make the users of devi realize that they were not in control of DD, that their words did not mater as a mater of fact only the one at the top could decide, and it was rather a one sided decision to put forth a person which art is great, but with a strange picture to make people fall of if they only looked at that picture, which does not really promote the artist, and which I though DD was about. If I saw this picture I would not really wish to see the other work of that artist, if that was the greatest skill, because I think a DD was about showing the best of a artist. Sorry if I have mistaken that.

It still eludes me to understand the decision.
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KeraRaven Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012   General Artist
This is the only DD ever to be up for two days straight. A full 48 hours, and I'll explain why.

when $Moonbeam13 was testing the DD system back then, she used the piece above to test it. After the test she forgot to take it down and it was up as a DD for a Day. During that. It went through so much hurtful and mean user comments and reports for her to take it down and explain she didn't mean to, because of the test.

the next day it was reawarded by `PurpelBlur with the reason right in the DD comment you can still read. Also, he later on after this, and last year, posted a blog ---->[link] about that they really are meant to be.
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Barrocco Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
... O_o
I think understand. ^_^
Still though, I have to say I feel with the artist on this. Going through such flames for someone to state a point about it being a feature and the uncertanity. Something that might be good turned bad and then good at a later point, but I guess people are to serious sometimes. But using dd to state such a point, it seems kinda wrong to me. In some ways it might have been right, still I can't help but feel it is wrong somewhat. Though, it is just my opinion and perhaps no one else thinks or feel such about it.
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grygon Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
lol, that explains half of the images you guys decide to feature. ;)
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KeraRaven Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012   General Artist
We don't feature art, we are just the admin of the group.

FAQ #18: Who selects the Daily Deviation and how is it chosen? please read this to find the real CV's who are in charge of the features. :)
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grygon Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i know that- but you DO feature art in this group. ;) and you guys have a very similar taste as that froggy drawing sometimes.
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KeraRaven Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012   General Artist
Yes we do. It's just like this froggy one that we have the reason to accept art from learning artist and how it was done and unique it is. :) So thanks for noticing.
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grygon Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
uh huh
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
lol, i remember when ppl went nuts over that frog pic XD
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kampfly Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Student Artisan Crafter
love the frog :love:
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NorthboundFox Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That frog is the single most amazing thing I've seen in my entire life. :lmao:

Keep up the great work, GDD! You guys are doing an amazing job running this group :3
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Nighttime-Sun Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
froggy!
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rioIu Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ha ha you derps! :D First, I saw the frog DD coming in this journal, and second, why don't you people read the description the GM-or-CV-whatever-they're-called-now gave? Understandably some DDs aren't to your taste, I hate it when a suggestion of mine is rejected especially if I think they're especially talented, but I don't know why people need to be so pissed off about it...
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ArtBYbeverly Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
"This deviation was created based from a game that was started here. A game that embraces this community, its members, and outright hardcore deviousness. Hell, it was drawn blindly! And now, due to certain events, it further serves to represent an open mind to all art and general understanding."

**You say that the game embraces this community etc., and you say it was 'drawn blindly'... and the game you gave was to draw it in photoshop or a drawing program of choice! Just my opinion from an opened minded artist and traditionalist, but if you DON'T have photoshop and DON'T have a drawing program...then I guess you weren't invited to join the game? Does that embrace this entire community or just those that are digital drawers or artist's? I for one can draw blindly, without the use of digital means...like I said just my two cents worth!

To the artist...please don't take this personally, you're frog line drawing deserved to be a dd! :)
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ArtBYbeverly Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
SNIPER115A3 said...Lol, you just found it!? I found it 2 years ago, and it was featured back in 2008 Besides, it was not a true DD feature, they were doing some kind of testing. In the discription it says "$Moonbeam13 was testing the DD planner, as it had some glitches that were fixed. To do so, she set THIS picture, the first item in her watchlist, as a DD to make sure it worked".

I don't get it!!
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DTKinetic Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't care about the definition of Daily Deviation...if you're going to feature something, you should make it something worth featuring like a piece of art with real quality, time, and effort. :roll:
I'm sure many of you would consider it an honor to be "featured" at your local museum. It may not be a gold trophy, but it still has its prestige.
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KeraRaven Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012   General Artist
Well students put in tons of time, and effort and never stop learning. Just like people who claim they are a professional. Yes they have had a lot of time in the area, but they are also always still learning.

:) They deserve a feature for progressing in an area of art that many take time to learn and some just quit when it gets harder.
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DTKinetic Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Don't get me wrong, DDs don't have to be professional work, so I do agree. People who have worked up to their level of art deserve recognition as well.
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xNatje Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Student General Artist
a good work isn't always one where has been worked on for a long time. A single line drawing from five minutes can also be great, and yes I have seen these in musea!
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KennethJensen Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*clears throat*

....



BWAHAHAHAHA!
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fAfCrystal Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012   General Artist
well it has story behind it thought (:
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Mousenibbles Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Student Artisan Crafter
XD Yall got tired of having people criticize the daily deviations that were chosen, huh? Well, good on you for this one.
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KeraRaven Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012   General Artist
We are the not ones that award the DD's. We just help suggest.

This was a DD given more towards the beginning and is a very old game from then. :)
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GarasudamA Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012
ARE YOU F*****G KIDDING?
the frog lines aren't even finished my god XDDD
anyway..has a creepy/cute expression...
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Allendra3 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Read the description. The person drew it closing their eyes.
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KeraRaven Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012   General Artist
Please read the artist comments and the GM's reason for the DD. :)
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Maxl654 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012
Just ridiculous! I've never seen a so poor drawing in my entire life. It doesn't deserve a DD.
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Allendra3 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
If you read the description, you'll see the story behind it.
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KeraRaven Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012   General Artist
Please read the DD comment that was given for it. :)
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Alizadeh-Art Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
i love the fine quality on linework,and the color of choise is brilliant!very well deserved DD!you guys make a great job:rofl:and yes i know that this piece was a test of moonboom something!cheers goodnight i leave this group and i m happy about my decission,good luck with your DD`s!
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sannamy Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
well... the problem is that moderators were the ones that make us think in the DDs as some kind of award... everytime I saw a DD since I'm here, it looked tottally elitist... than encourage people to improve, but in the other hand produce a high level of confusion over the page... Some times we saw the same people one and another time getting DailyDeviations, and I'm talking of relativelly famous artist of the web... żdo they deserve even more views and watchers to a galery that manage thousands as a currency?
Even If we get the point... the admins should be the ones that had to change the way in what they think about the DD, because what "they choose" is what we (the random artists) will think deserve a DD, and what not.

I hope my point was understandable...

(Sorry if I wrote it wrong... I do talk with too much words and english is not my thing. ^^)
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KeraRaven Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012   General Artist
No it's understandable. I've been seeing lately the last year or so that the DD system is getting muddled. This group is not muddling it though. We take all of this into our minds as we vote, and we want the DD's as features. NOT elitist awards. :)
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simonpark81 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i also thought it was only about elitism. i have been turned down repeatedly no matter how much progress i make along the way, and had given up on DDs.
i read about them in the begining and understand totally what they are supposed to represent, however this doesnt reflect what the chosen DD's actually look like at the end of the day. they are always of extreme caliber and for the most part are either photos, digital photomanipulations or paintings. common artists were never given a chance, so we never expected a chance. its just like the contests. why bother to compete if your not going to be at least given a fighting chance?
so if the judging process is going to be a little more fair in future ill sure be trying again, but i would suggest putting a journal at the top of the group page explaining what DD means; then people cant keep getting it mixed up.

*not a troll, just very bugged over the whole DD thing:iconshyguyplz:
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KeraRaven Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012   General Artist
Again this group is not meant for you to give up. I've actually voted yes on a few you've submitted. :)

It's just the majority vote sometimes isn't fair. I've been bugged by it at times to, but I'm hopeing that posting journals like this will help start people to maybe open up on art more and consider a few that maybe art like the Elite. :)
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simonpark81 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i understood what you meant by the article and am not offended in the slightest. drawing with eyes closed is difficult to do, and when it was a new idea it was a damn unique one!
thank you for the vote of confidence, saying you have voted for mine before.. but i do speak out generally for everyone else here too, mostly those who feel they dont wanna make waves or put themselves forward too much. i ride the waves of others, you see :D i like to voice the opinion of the people:) i think maybe there should just be a little fairer "across the board" voting, or maybe an intermediate section too?
That said, with the way people are treated generally here (the soul-less rejection notice is like a punch in the gut to someone with low self esteem)
its no wonder they rebel in odd little ways.
its not even like its your fault, the judges, you hard working people who must trawl through thousands and thousands of deviations every day... of course its out of proportion before its in your hands...
But everyone round here that takes themselves seriously does think DDs are the prize to aim for everyday, as there isnt any explanation with them.
they are called daily deviation, they are at the bottom of every page.
of course it looks like the grand prize of this website-
as a serious artist isnt it only for exposure we came here for in the first place? i know it was for me.
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Durathror Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012
I know what you mean. :noes: USUALLY, it's SUPPOSED to be artwork that is really good, but the person isn't very popular and should have more attention. So in that way, it's not CONGRATS WE GAVE YOU A DD FOR BEING PRO, but WE WANT YOU TO BE NOTICED BECAUSE YOU ROCK. It's a small difference lol. And it doesn't help that, yes, there are times when they give DDs to artists that are already quite popular and thus don't need the additional attention. So I agree and disagree some too :XD:
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Celtilia Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Student General Artist
it's cute but ... all my desires to have a daily deviation are down... If someday I have one, I will be happy but it will not be the same having seen that one... I'm gonna leave this group
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Sniper115A3 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012   Digital Artist
Lol, you just found it!? I found it 2 years ago, and it was featured back in 2008 :P
Besides, it was not a true DD feature, they were doing some kind of testing. In the discription it says "$Moonbeam13 was testing the DD planner, as it had some glitches that were fixed. To do so, she set THIS picture, the first item in her watchlist, as a DD to make sure it worked" :)
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KeraRaven Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012   General Artist
I found out about it from ED but it still stands that this was what the DD system was made for. To feature, not award.
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freaky208 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thats just...sad.
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tallouh Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012
well said!
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